Comments on: Architecture as a Political Tool: Proposed Plan for the Biggest Mosque Ever Made, Istanbul, Turkey http://www.globalsiteplans.com/environmental-design/architecture-environmental-design/architecture-as-a-political-tool-proposed-plan-for-the-biggest-mosque-ever-made-istanbul-turkey/ Branding for Architecture, Engineering, Environmental Non-Profits, Landscape Architecture, & Urban Planning Companies Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:37:28 +0000 hourly 1 By: Politics vs. Culture: Municipality’s Rally Square Project in Yenikapi, Istanbul, Turkey | The GRID | Global Site Plans http://www.globalsiteplans.com/environmental-design/architecture-environmental-design/architecture-as-a-political-tool-proposed-plan-for-the-biggest-mosque-ever-made-istanbul-turkey/comment-page-1/#comment-26038 Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:15:44 +0000 http://www.globalsiteplans.com/?p=10781#comment-26038 [...] I was fortunate enough to work on this project 3-years ago, and at the same time as the excavation, there was a subway project going on to connect the two sides of the Bosphorus – underwater. This subway project was aimed to have been finished in 2007; however after it was realized that there were extremely valuable archaeological artifacts, the project was stalled after a lot of debate. However, the Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was anything but happy, because these groundbreaking findings were responsible for the delay of the subway project. These “several bowls and pots,” the expression the Prime Minister had chosen to describe the artifacts, meant an obstruction in the course of completion of a project that was supposed to strengthen the political standing of the current leading party, creating a situation in which the culture is sacrificed by politics, and projects related to the urban environment being used as political tools, similar to what I have discussed in one of my previous posts. [...]

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By: Erman Eruz http://www.globalsiteplans.com/environmental-design/architecture-environmental-design/architecture-as-a-political-tool-proposed-plan-for-the-biggest-mosque-ever-made-istanbul-turkey/comment-page-1/#comment-25754 Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:50:41 +0000 http://www.globalsiteplans.com/?p=10781#comment-25754 Thanks a lot for your insightful comments. It actually makes me upset how easy it seems to radically change the urban environment without much dialogue, and the current government is willing to use its tremendous power to do so. I think Kaner’s point that they are interested in “making the mark in the world” is definitely spot on. What better tool to achieve that goal than architecture?

I also like the term “urban solecism”. That is what generated the tallest building on the face of the Earth where there is absolutely no need for high rise building, since you don’t have urban congestion in the middle of a desert. In order to prevent that from becoming prevalent in Istanbul and Turkey in general, the public must question what is happening to the environment they live in, start to think about architecture and how the city they live in functions. I think that is what is lacking at the moment, and bringing up this consciousness is more important than to make pretty buildings, in my opinion.

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By: Ahmet Uzun http://www.globalsiteplans.com/environmental-design/architecture-environmental-design/architecture-as-a-political-tool-proposed-plan-for-the-biggest-mosque-ever-made-istanbul-turkey/comment-page-1/#comment-25595 Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:52:15 +0000 http://www.globalsiteplans.com/?p=10781#comment-25595 because of the relentless construction industry in turkey (especially in istanbul), the govenment has increased its general welfare and power. and this made the government spoilt and senseless in urban issues like conservating ecological an
d historical structure of istanbul.

speaking of welfare, there’s one more thing to think about. the welfare based on construction brings with “urban solecism”. and in this geography, we are very familiar that solecism from the well-known arabian city, Dubai. In fact, we called that “arabian solecism”. It’s like an turkish idiom actually. the same scenario seems like to happen for istanbul. and I’m afraid the “turkish solecism” is gonna born and the beloved city of istanbul will turn into Dubai or Sao Paulo.

besides, in political history of turkey, you can see nobody is interested in to protect the built environment or natural riches of old İstanbul. I can definitely say that nowadays there is no conservation consiciousness in turkey.

shortly, this mosque project is actually unnecessary for the city but i think the government considers this as a show of strength. but frankly, it’s a completely worrying example of vulgar populism.

(from facebook)

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By: Kaner http://www.globalsiteplans.com/environmental-design/architecture-environmental-design/architecture-as-a-political-tool-proposed-plan-for-the-biggest-mosque-ever-made-istanbul-turkey/comment-page-1/#comment-25555 Sat, 01 Sep 2012 11:49:16 +0000 http://www.globalsiteplans.com/?p=10781#comment-25555 Politicians and politics use different channels to progress their ideologies and agendas. Some politicians, like Mr. Erdogan, want to make their mark on the world. When you look at the buildings you can easily understand who was in charge of the government, not only mosques, but also through statues and monuments. For example, the current government is taking advantage of Islamic believers, and they are building Mosques to increase conservatism in Turkey.

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